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2018-01-15 Being Traditional / Being Progressive - Christianity is both

Submitted byStefanw onSun, 01/07/2018 - 10:41
Meeting-Date
Mon 2018-Jan-15
Facillitator
Stefan
Body

Christianity is simultaneously traditional and progressive.

  • Traditional in that it doesn't allow you to change your values to suit your convenience, and that it is based on a history going back to the Jewish people as chosen by God.
  • Progressive in that it is urging to always press onwards and to not blindly accept following rules.

Western culture used to be generally traditional: looking into the past for significance. About 500 years ago, it started looking for significance in a future that we create (Renaissance, Scientific Revolution, etc).

However, our culture is now in a transition period where people are second-guessing tradition and second-guessing our ability to create a positive future.

What does it mean for us?

  • Being traditional is useful to not deceive ourselves, unknowingly blinded by our limited perspective.
  • Being progressive is liberating when change is needed.

 

Tradition refuses to submit to the small and arrogant oligarchy of those who merely happen to be walking about.

G. K. Chesterton

A tradition without intelligence is not worth having. 

 T. S. Eliot

If technical progress is not matched by corresponding progress in man's ethical formation, in man's inner growth, then it is not progress at all, but a threat for man and for the world.

Joseph Ratzinger

 

Questions
  1. Specifically, what are some examples when we were traditional when we should be progressive and vice versa?
  1. (Broader question) What kinds of situations call for being traditional or progressive?

Comments

I wish there was one good, short video or other resource I could tell you all to watch, but I can't find one.  Maybe it is because I wanted to look at Traditionalism and Progressivism as broad worldviews.

  • The Steven Pinker video is interesting because he is a liberal/libertarian atheist (but very smart) academic.  Coming from that perspective he can still see and show how "Progressives" can be short sighted. 
  • The Three Fundamental Differences article takes a political angle but shows the different points of view fairly well.
  • The three wikipedia articles are to provide definition and background to the broad ideas of Traditionalism and Progressivism.